• Rioting Pacifist@lemmy.world
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      8 hours ago

      Vissonary maybe but innovator?

      IPhones & MacBooks were well built & marketed but neither was really innovative.

      • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works
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        iPhones literally were visionary. The whole industry was trying to imitate blackberry and overnight apple made them completely irrelevant. Android ch

        MacBooks, yea, it’s a laptop. They had some really good ideas in there, sure. MagSafe and touchpads that didnt royally suck ass were welcome features. The M-series lighting a fire under intels ass was exactly what the entire industry needed. Love them more hate them, even when Apple is bad, they create good trouble in an industry that needed to be proven wrong from time to time.

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        6 hours ago

        Yes and no, the first iPhone was innovative, but after that, it just became refinement.

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      8 hours ago

      Cook diversified Apple’s product lineup, overseeing the introduction of many new products such as the AirPods, Apple Watch, Apple Vision Pro, AirTag, Apple silicon in its Mac lineup and expanding its services business.

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    14 hours ago

    MacOS was so much better when Steve Jobs was in charge.

    Tim Cook REALLY made it worse. Steve Jobs made sure the user experience was generally good, although admittedly there were many times when he was pigheaded. On a personal level, Steve Jobs was a terrible person, but he made the operating system very good and very consistent.

    And Tim Cook didn’t care about any of that, and macOS is now SUPER inconsistent and much less user friendly. It’s still better than Windows, but MAN is it so so so much worse.

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        12 hours ago

        Well that’s not correct.

        Engineers are great at developing a product.

        But having someone at the end who’s using the product and insisting on consistency because he’s anal-retentive and a pain in the ass will mean the product is consistent with the evaluator’s goals.

        macOS used to have a lot of underlying features that worked consistently no matter which app you were using, and Apple destroyed that.

        Either Jobs was having an effect, or it’s a damned strange coincidence that the severe reduction in consistency in macOS started just at the point that he died.

    • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
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      10 hours ago

      Its not a shiny in your face thing so people dont care, but its something amazing that happened under him.

      They also got their first modem, the C series, as well which is quite an achievement. Already got 2 iterations and a 3rd coming out in 2027.

  • Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    I liked Apple under since the early 80’s, Apple was great under both Steve and Tim and I sure Ill continue to like it under John.