All hidden cameras should be illegal, I don’t care about your “hands free convenience”
This is like anti pervert laws 101
Honestly, they should not ban them, and then just low-key encourage enterprising attendees to pwn the devices and any attached accounts. That would be delightful.
It’s not 2006 anymore
I like how these only became a problem because Meta made them which meant a bunch of morons bought it.
Hidden and pinhole cameras have been a commercially available thing for decades, even on glasses.
Hell they even made one as a kids toy you could buy.
only became a problem because Meta made them
Anyone who remember “glassholes” knows this isn’t new. Wearing a camera on your literal eyes is still a step too far in this otherwise compromised world.
But yes, I think the big issue here, as others pointed out, has to do with the nature of the company producing them. That’d be especially important for a place like DEFCON, which is all about securing your data.
It’s not the cameras that are the problem, however, it’s the companies behind them that I take issue with. It’s one thing to be spied on by a camera, it’s another thing when data collected from that camera feed is then sold to anyone who is buying. That’s what I have a problem with. The cameras themselves aren’t the issue.
As usual we advertise the Meta Glasses detecting app:
Glasses Nearby
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.pocketpc.nearbyglasses
iOS version: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/nearby-glasses-original/id6761056896
I see some others in the iOS app store that claim to detect nearby “smart” glasses via BLE. I have not tested any of them, so I have no opinion on their usefulness, reliability, privacy, etc:
Nearby Glasses (same name, different app): https://apps.apple.com/us/app/nearby-glasses/id6776279207
Nearby Lens: Glasses Detector: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/nearby-lens-glasses-detector/id6760046620
NoGlasshole: Glasses Detector: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/noglasshole-glasses-detector/id6760988897
Nearby Glasses Ray-Ban Scanner (in-app subscription required): https://apps.apple.com/us/app/nearby-glasses-ray-ban-scanner/id6760216782
Defcon is not the place I’d want to wear something like that and make myself a target. Of course, I’d be embarrassed to wear them anywhere, but afraid at Defcon.
I was afraid walking into the room with the wall of sheeple just bc I was wearing a button down in spite of being the sole sponsor of the hackathon. I (as instructed) left my watch, phone, laptop etc at hotel and only brought locked down Chromebook and lived in sweaty terror every keystroke. All while they were stoked and loving the sponsor not just buying a logo, and sent me back with like 500 bucks in swag easily to share back home at the office. Still… Terror.
Fortunately most of the attendees are genuinely good folks, so generally what really happens is just that some data gets scraped and everybody has a bit of a laugh at one of the talks.
I know worse happens, I just think it’s worth mentioning it is actually a group of mostly awesome people.
conference organizers said they have imposed a ban on “Meta-style glasses with recording capabilities.”
Dammit. I was hoping they explicitly called them “pervert glasses” like the headline suggested.
So have shirt that says, “If you can read this, you may be recorded for your safety and for quality assurance purposes.” That’s what corporations do, right? Should solve the concerns?
Do the glasses automatically read QR codes?
Nah. See the specific phrasing allows for you to record them and them to record you in two party consent states
They better get ready on finding these idiots because now they got people who remove the LED lights.
I prefer the term ‘pedofocals’
I’d like to know how well they handle being exposed to IR and/or UV LED flares.
Once that experiment has been performed, try a targeted laser turret.
