The country needs to find a “compromise” between privacy and safety, according to Flock Safety CEO Garrett Langley.

“When people talk about just one of these, privacy or safety, they’re prioritizing the wrong thing, and what we have to prioritize as a country is compromise,” Langley said during a recent interview with Fox News. “How do we have our safety, and how do we balance privacy?”

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    2 months ago

    I think the window of compromise has long since passed. Flock as a company went in with a guns blazing, anti-privacy, record everything, give the information to anyone style business style, and then chose to double and triple down on the style when the controversy/outcry first started. Once you’ve hit the stage where there’s people starting to protest and riot and cities have started to go out of their way to ban the product and retract contracts due to the fact that they’re concerned about public support. It’s too late. That’s a fire that’s not being put out.

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      Yup, violent crime has been dropping for decades and not an insignificant drop. We did not need mass surveillance, we did not want mass surveillance, nor do we want it now.

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    I can guarantee this has been said already, but the compromise is simple; no flock cameras (or comparable tech) anywhere.

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    *We didn’t invent police abuse! We actually shined a light on it and pointed it out"

    Fuck right the hell off with this shit. You don’t get to sell your panopticon to a group that routinely abuses every tool they have, and feign ignorance in defense of the results.

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    Fuck off with compromise. take your shit and get out no one wants you in case the guillotine wasn’t fucking clear

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    Hey won’t be gullitined and instead he will just face prison time and have his mass survelence system dismantled and the rest of his assets seized and redistributed

    A fair and just compromise imho

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    We’re already in the safest time for petty crime ever, and flock won’t help with America’s real issue of corporate crime. Safety will not be affected.

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    I do not want Flock cameras surveiling me or my car where it will inevitably become data that’s combined with a million other data points on me that might be able to determine what I’m doing, what I’m thinking, and what I might do in the future, just to be able to say we’re “safer”.

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      It falls in the “no entry without warrant” argument for me. If you need to surviel me, show me a warrant.

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      I’ve been driving different routes as much as possible. One day this way, one day that way, once by bike, once by car, once on foot, sometimes making stops, sometimes going nonstop. Yeah, there’s still patterns, but I’m not beholden to them and at this point I know alternative routes as well as a London cab driver and I’ve found cool new parks, restaurants, etc.

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    I think one of the problems that encompasses the flock debate besides the privacy issues is the relationship that the police have with people in the United States. Most police view people as a threat and if you look at the police training they teach them to be extremely violent. During simple traffic stops most police are on edge and have an attitude like they might be violent with you. I’m just talking about the general atmosphere- I’m not even getting into all of the examples where police have killed people for no reason, falsified information to arrest innocent people, and generally abused their power.

    Did police want to wear body cams or did they want to continue without accountability? Police have a responsibility and have taken an oath. They should be required to have cameras.

    In a society where all of its parts work together towards the same goal, ALPRs would not be a problem. In the US this surveillance is very worrisome.