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    22 days ago

    it could be an homage, but it’s not “nazi style” any more than a toxic chemical label is a Nazi style “Totenkoph”

    it needs to have flat tops and bottoms to be “SS style”

    Fuck ice, etc.

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      I don’t see what NS split by a lightning bolt would refer to other than National Socialist - eg literally claiming affiliation/support to the Nazi party.

      It is possible its something else and just incredibly bad fortune and an incredibly ignorant person who wouldn’t get that connection is wearing it - but given the context that it’s ICE… I’m leaning to it being a nazi dog whistle to other like-minded ICE officers.

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      Regardless of how bad it is, the lightning bolt is clearly intended as nazi shit.

      They’re not good at making swastikas either, but no matter how deformed they still count as nazi shit.

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      You need a bit of mental gymnastics to go “oh but the style is such and such, therefore it is not nazi sign”.

      I know fuck all about nazi styles and to me this looks like a nazi n⚡s, proclaiming that he is a national socialist.

      He IS A FUCKING NAZI.

      Edit: another point to add. If I was a dumb racist scum turned nazi, since I know fuck all about the ‘original’ nazi styles, most likely I would come up with some shit like this, that delivers the message but is not in the original style.

      Remember, ICE agents are not smart or educated people that would know much about original nazi styles.

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        You need a bit of mental gymnastics to go “oh but the style is such and such, therefore it is not nazi sign”.

        “it could be an homage, but it’s not “nazi style” any more than a toxic chemical label is a Nazi style “Totenkoph””

        “Fuck ice, etc.”

        EDIT: Since these chucklefucks won’t touch the word “socialist” with a barge pole, it’s more likely his initials.

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            The full name of the Nazi Party was Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (German for ‘National Socialist German Workers’ Party’).

            I know what “Nazi” means dude. There are a zillion things to criticise about these people; rest assured when they put nazi shit on things, it’s more obvious. Criticize and obsess over the right shit. That’s the whole point

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                22 days ago

                What’s the difference between a nazi sign and a sign that is homage to Nazis?

                According to you, one of them is okay, but not the other one?

                One is that the sign itself actually resembles a nazi sign, and not other objects, and the other is something that is designed to emulate the ideas of nazi signs, without resembling them.

                Both are bad. I don’t feel I have to actually point that out, but here I am. My goal with the comment here is to make you guys perceive reality and not jump at everything you see.

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          the probability of randomly selecting someone with the initials “NS” is 1 in 676, or approximately 0.00148 (0.148%).

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      Conservatives think Tylenol causes autism… Do you really think they have an eye for brand styles? Come on… Can we stop being intellectually dishonest?

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        Neil Smith? It’s common for things to be marked to differentiate them in groups where the exact same thing is given to a bunch of people.

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          Really, that’s what you’re gonna go with, his mom tagged his helmet with his initials so he doesn’t lose it at Camp Fascism this winter?

          That ICE agents, notorious for hiding their faces and identities, are now leaving clues on their helmets as to who they are for the Scooby gang to solve?

          These dudes get boners hurting brown-skinned people in front of their families, they want to look frightening. It’s more than likely some slogan, like NEVER SURRENDER, with a lightning bolt because yeah, he saw it on some Nazi gear and thought it looked tough AF. Oooh, he didn’t flatten the tops and bottoms!! Like he’s effing Michaelangelo or something. Like these dudes are going to draw anything OTHER than lightning bolts, lol.

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      What a weird hill to stand on. Hey, watcha think about this image I found on Facebook by searching Google for “Never Surrender”.

      What do you think these dudes will “never surrender” as they raid minority neighborhoods? Think they mean THE FATHERLAND or something?

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    ICE are all the raging assholes that constantly demanded violent responses to everything a minority or liberal did, or suggested nuking every foreign country for whatever perceived infraction, while safely behind a screen and keyboard. They refused to sign up for the military that would impose rules, expectations, and restrictions on them. Also, people shoot back at you if you get deployed. Can’t have that. Too scary. So they join ICE and get to beat up on those foreign people and piss off the libs while under State Protection, nobody gets to shoot back. They’re protected from consequences. Cowards and bullies.

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    What’s the NS stand for though? Only thing that comes to mind to be labeled a nazi is “National Socialist”

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      A lot of people posting this, I’m guessing sarcastically because it doesn’t make much sense.

      I’m guessing it’s “No survivors” because “ooooh, I’m such an edgy badass!”

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          Allegedly, at that. We’ll never know because there’s no due process, and plenty of documented immigrants and even citizens are being swept up in their acts of terror.

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    The SS fucks had a flat top and bottom, this one appears pointed. Anyway, close enough and most their ranks are filled with neo-Nazi turds.

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    You dont have to look back very far to determine how this started on a low level, this is just aggresive inaappropriate counter-culture , 4chan internet troll, basement dwelling shitheel behaivor from the 90s and 00s but carried over into adult life

    Contrarians will always be contrary, so I guess being contrary to a boring “regime” that didnt particularly say or do anything except for ask for generic human rights for everyone, means cosplaying as the most offensive thing you can think of because it makes them mad, Cosplaying as Nazis and even doing the same thing the Nazis did with randomly and incorrectly co-opting norse iconography.

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      Accepting? That exactly the person they want. Someone who will follow orders no matter how heinous.