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    One time I went to a strip club when I turned 18. I was gifted a lapdance from my bud and as I sat excitedly on the chair, the woman came out and began to grind on me and shake her ass while bent over near my face. I quickly realized her ass stank. Her ass stank pretty bad. Why had no one told her she stank?? Why did it have to be me to be the first to notice??? Am I a victim here??

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    I ran into a Discord where the sole topic was running hot girl “AI influencers” on Instagram. Literally hundreds of thousands of people thirsted over them, and the operaters made real money.

    Their systems were pretty sophisticated. The whole process is automated; LLMs write the posts and do sexy DMs, imagegen and videogen models and such do the sexy images and videos, controlnet keeps the look consistent-enough between media. LLM agents press all the buttons. I think there may have even been OnlyFans stuff.

    So a single operator could run dozens of bots.

    …It’s not hard for these models, either. DMs and short Insta posts are stupidly simple language, and media of sexy people in clothes, doing insta-style poses, probably makes up most of the image/video model training corpus.

    I think there was some engagement farming with other bots, of course, but it would snowball and turn organic. Real Instagram users were thirsting over these bots.


    …It got me thinking.

    Is it really that different from a parasocial relationship with a “real” influencer?

    I mean, functionally, its exactly the same. The users can’t even tell the difference.


    I posit that the whole “thirst” influencer system was broken and exploitive to everyone involved, except Facebook.

    It was fucked up to begin with.

    AI just made it more obvious to onlookers. It destroyed the pretense that any of it was “real.”

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      What a lot of people fail to realize is that the whole industry is based on selling a fantasy. It’s no different then getting the girl friend experience from a prostitute. I don’t think there’s a meaningful difference between a real person and an AI in these industries.

      IMO it’s only a problem when the customer doesn’t understand that they’re buying an illusion.

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        IMO it’s only a problem when the customer doesn’t understand that they’re buying an illusion.

        +1. But I wonder how many know it’s an illusion.

        I’m the wrong person to analyze this though, as I do not get why people engage in these services. Like, I get roleplaying, I’ve daydreamed or even written out long fantasies, but why would I (for example) pay for some girl to talk it out on the phone?

        …Much less gawk at some influencer on Insta?

        What’s the point?

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    I think the bigger issue is 65+ guys perving on girls young enough to be their daughters. Old guys who think they are still 25 and have game.

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      Maybe, but I wouldn’t be leaving those comments for real women, either. E-girls existed long before AI did. What do these guys think is going to happen? Are these the dudes who go to strip clubs and think that the dancer is going to go home with them?

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    We have to start adopting more accurate terminology for demographics. Most boomers are in their 70s and 80s. The ‘boomer’ shortcut has outlived it’s usefulness. I’m a ‘young’ boomer at 68.

    I saw a lot of these so-called boomers at J6. Except that they were in their 30s and 40s. Boomers ain’t scaling walls no more.

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    Dude, AI content is now getting past me. Like all the tells are gone. Audio is clear, what they’re saying makes sense, video doesn’t have any strange artifacts. The only real tell is if the content is too extreme in some form or fashion.

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      Truth in journalism laws need to come back. We’re moving toward a future where we can only trust what we see or hear irl. I need a way that i can trust a source.

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        Sounds better than splitting the internet into three and forcing biometric verifications. Although that may end up happening for different reasons, aka a human only internet, a human & AI internet and a mainly AI only internet.

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      I’ve been chewing out boomers I know who read off ai summaries. They don’t even notice the ai summary label.

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    Also:

    I’d love to do case studies on the real people at the end of these things.

    Like, who is scrolling Facebook and Insta to thirst over algorithmic posts, yet is somehow unaware of the generative explosion?

    Do they know, and just don’t care? Do they think they could tell if an image is fake, or is it true unawareness?

    What do they do in real life? What are their relationships like?

    How does this system work.

    I think it’s easy to assume they’re all basement dwellers or whatever, but one could stereotype Lemmy the same way, and that’s just not true.


    EDIT: Now that I think about it, such studies must exist. I don’t want to fall into the “I didn’t even try to search for the answer” thing.

    But all this has happened so fast. And clearly the studies aren’t being acted on…

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    My dad listens to AI generated stories. I still don’t know if he realizes they are Fictional AI stories, or if this is his way of killing time by this instead of listening to audio books. I guess audiobooks take commitment

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    Are we sure all these boomers leaving comments aren’t also bots on Facebook?

    They might be there to get the thirst traps traction to get out on all the old creeper’s algorithms in the first place.

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          Our university’s IT team actually pushed for this last year. AI to generate assignments… students get their own AI to do the assignments… then back to faculty AI to grade andngive feedback… all built into Blackboard and Canvas…

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    Fucking duh. They also can’t tell they are being gaslit by bots on all their stupid conservative pages. Boomers are fucking stupid.

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      Plenty of the young generation are dumb as fuck as well. Trump didn’t win just by getting the boomer vote.

      Plenty of morons out there from all walks of life.

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        Someone is “thirsty” for sex. A woman (or a broad approximation there of) exploits that thirst, hence “trap”.

        The “woman” is the thirst trap. Woman is in quotes, because it’s almost always not a woman, but a bot, or one of many accounts run by scammers.

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    At some point you have to stop blaming the algorithm: If you’re posting »good morning beautiful« under an image where the hands have six fingers and the background melts into itself, the problem isn’t cutting edge AI. Basic digital literacy is part of living online, regardless of your age.

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    Hey it sure beats talking to a non-dude about . . . y’know . . feelings. Like that’s ever gonna happen.

    Sure, next thing you’ll want to convince us the objects of lust are human women with their own thoughts, physiology, and preferences. RIGHT!

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      They’ll talk to a non-dude about feelings. Their feelings. In fact, they’ll do that instead of seeing a therapist.

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        Only a certain pre-selected set of ones, including: victorious, invincible, sly, brilliant, and suave.

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          I mean, I hear women complain about how men use them as a substitute for therapy, so I assume that they aren’t just talking about how awesome they are.

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            While I’m sure that’s true, an actual therapist has training to prevent and overcome the kind of bullshit men no doubt wallow in with their amateur versions.