Yes. The effect of one person’s passive boycott is nothing. If you’re serious enough to sabotage your own relationships over this, then perhaps focus instead on a greater boycott campaign, or actively pushing for legislation to actually make a difference.
The effect of one person’s passive boycott is nothing.
This is some centrist capitalism-enabling shit. The sum of our individual efforts can amount to great things. Boycotts have been a great tool against fascism throughout history.
@Waffelmeister@lemmy.world is actually boycotting his relationship. I do not think it is wise for him to try to force her into submission rather than leading by a lifetime of example proving that one can get by just fine without Amazon and inspiring rather than coercing her to leave.
Let’s remind ourselves this is a company actively supporting genocide.
force her into submission
coercing her to leave
You conclude there’s forcing and coercion from 2 sentences? I just see two people with apparently incompatible moral values about consumption. I don’t see any forcing or coercion. I think it’s a very valid reason. If he has or is willing to put patience into the relationship is also a decision he has to take.
Okay, so could you name alternate companies to move to that have definitely spoken against Zion? I’m certainly not pro-Amazon and am aware of the chokehold that AWS has on the entire Internet, but it sure seems there are fewer alts than we would hope. Also, how is an ultimatum not forcing?
Why do I have to name alternatives for you? I also find manipulative that the alternatives you seek from me MUST have definitely spoken against Zionist entity, when just not participating would be enough.
I think stating your boundaries about who you want to be with is not forcing. Would be forcing if his gf was dependable on him or there was emotional manipulation involved…
What I mean is that isn’t it hard to prove whether a company actually is supporting Israel unless they’ve been outright about being against it? I’m not trying to test you; I’m literally curious about what some of these are.
Also, is what he’s doing not emotional manipulation? “Ultimatum” or not, the exact wording doesn’t matter; if he really cares about continuing the relationship, He should be actively helping her find alternatives to the products that she would normally buy from Amazon and even link them to her to make it easy to move. He’s putting the work on her; that’s lazy and rude and controlling when he doesn’t even want to help her help the switch. Does that make sense?
Yes. The effect of one person’s passive boycott is nothing. If you’re serious enough to sabotage your own relationships over this, then perhaps focus instead on a greater boycott campaign, or actively pushing for legislation to actually make a difference.
Don’t cut off your nose to spite your face.
Seconded. “There is no ethical consumption under capitalism” type shit. Pick your battles.
This is some centrist capitalism-enabling shit. The sum of our individual efforts can amount to great things. Boycotts have been a great tool against fascism throughout history.
@Waffelmeister@lemmy.world is actually boycotting his relationship. I do not think it is wise for him to try to force her into submission rather than leading by a lifetime of example proving that one can get by just fine without Amazon and inspiring rather than coercing her to leave.
Let’s remind ourselves this is a company actively supporting genocide.
You conclude there’s forcing and coercion from 2 sentences? I just see two people with apparently incompatible moral values about consumption. I don’t see any forcing or coercion. I think it’s a very valid reason. If he has or is willing to put patience into the relationship is also a decision he has to take.
Okay, so could you name alternate companies to move to that have definitely spoken against Zion? I’m certainly not pro-Amazon and am aware of the chokehold that AWS has on the entire Internet, but it sure seems there are fewer alts than we would hope. Also, how is an ultimatum not forcing?
Why do I have to name alternatives for you? I also find manipulative that the alternatives you seek from me MUST have definitely spoken against Zionist entity, when just not participating would be enough.
I think stating your boundaries about who you want to be with is not forcing. Would be forcing if his gf was dependable on him or there was emotional manipulation involved…
What I mean is that isn’t it hard to prove whether a company actually is supporting Israel unless they’ve been outright about being against it? I’m not trying to test you; I’m literally curious about what some of these are.
Also, is what he’s doing not emotional manipulation? “Ultimatum” or not, the exact wording doesn’t matter; if he really cares about continuing the relationship, He should be actively helping her find alternatives to the products that she would normally buy from Amazon and even link them to her to make it easy to move. He’s putting the work on her; that’s lazy and rude and controlling when he doesn’t even want to help her help the switch. Does that make sense?