• eicker@lemmy.worldOP
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    2 months ago

    Trump’s government siding with OpenAI is peak MAGA economics: copyright is sacred until Silicon Valley needs millions of other people’s books, articles and art for free. Then suddenly property rights become an annoying obstacle to »winning the AI race.« Apparently America First now means AI companies first, creators somewhere near last.

    • bcgm3@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Alrighty then, enjoy the end of creative people creating things, let’s all find out together how this ends 😐

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      2 months ago

      should update torrent client to say “LLM training agent” instead, legally safe /s

    • DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Nah we might need to accept reality. You need to be rich enough to make some bullshit company that uses A.I. then you can pirate legally using that A.I. as an excuse.

      • njordomir@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        You need a $$$/hr lawyer to pull <$100 LLC paperwork out of their briefcase. “My client was just training his company’s innovative new LLM.” We live in an odd world.

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    2 months ago

    To my understanding, and excuse me if I‘m wrong because I‘m not a lawyer but that‘s not what the fucking law says? You either uphold copyright law or abandon it. There is no middle way and if courts disagree with you, your stance doesn‘t really matter here.

    • General_Effort@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      They got you hoodwinked there.

      They don’t like to talk about it, but the US founding fathers were raging leftists (although that terminology didn’t exist yet). The framers of the constitution had no intention to create a class of intellectual landlords extracting rent from the people. That is why copyright is strictly limited in the constitution.

      [the United States Congress shall have power] To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Clause

      The language is archaic. Useful Arts means inventions and Science means knowledge. The economic consequences of copyright are very much at issue.

      That AI training is (generally) Fair Use is a no-brainer. It’s actually much harder to justify copyrights for entertainment products.

  • TuringCompleteSocialist@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Peak capitalism, steal everything from the masses, remix and regurgitate it so no one is the wiser, then sell it back to them via a subscription model.

    Makes me sick.

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    2 months ago

    This just in… I think I’m going to start training my own LLM on various movies, TV shows, and music. US government said it was ok.

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    2 months ago

    gonna start my own darknet with a 56k bandwidth limit.

    shit was simpler 30 years ago because nothing advanced enough could use such a slow connection.

  • DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I am okay with that. As long we are consistent with the copyright law. If OpenAI can break copyright to make their own money, it should be legal to me too.

    Laws should be the same for everyone and no one should be above the law

    • njordomir@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      I also imagine a world without copyright may not be any worse than the one we’re in. In a lot of ways it would probably be much better.